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Tract TORIC UHD Hunting Rifle Scope Review

Hondo64d

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Several months ago, Jon Allen, Co-Founder of Tract Optics, graciously agreed to provide me with one of their Toric UHD Hunting Rifle Scopes. When discussing the review, I explained I would be checking tracking, zero retention, and return to zero. Checking those items would include drop test mimicking actual drops I had experienced with my scopes over the years, which were knocking them over while on a bipod and knocking them over from a leaning position. The eval would be objective, and the results were going to be posted without modification.

Tract promptly sent me the FFP MRAD/MRAD version, which, out of the available variations, would be my choice for a hunting scope. Packaging was protective and kept the scope in good shape. Included was a 3” sunshade which I used throughout the entire evaluation, a lens cloth, and hex wrenches appropriate for setting the zero stop and zeroing turrets.


Toric UHD Hunting Scope In The Box

The elevation turret is a locking turret to prevent inadvertent adjustment. You raise the turret to adjust and then push it back down to lock it. It works as designed. The elevation turret is fairly tall, approaching the height of the turret found on the SWFA SS fixed power scopes. I'm not sure it that adds in elevation travel, or not, but the elevation travel is good, advertised at 30 mils. With the 20 MOA rail on my rifle, I had 20 mils of remaining elevation travel after zero. The windage turret is capped. I like to dial for range and hold for windage, so actually prefer a capped windage turret when I can get it. This windage turret is a little bigger/ taller than the one on the LRHS, but is not obtrusive in any way.


Elevation Turret Locked


Elevation Turret Unlocked


Windage Turret Uncapped.

The reticle is simple when compared to many of today's milliradian based reticles. In my mind, for a hunting rifle, this is a good thing. The center portion of the reticle is a little thicker than many, subtending .05 mils. Again, on a hunting rifle I view this as a good thing. I shot a pig using the scope at about 100 yards at sunset +30 minutes with magnification set on 6x and did not struggle to see the center portion of the reticle. The post are .5 mils thick. The horizontal posts end at 9.5 mils from center, allowing me to hold for a >100mph wind at 600 yards. Way more windage reference than will ever be necessary, but on the other hand, the post do not obstruct the field of view in any way, which makes it easier to spot your impacts. The bottom post is 10.5 mils from center, enough elevation to get the same 6.5 Creedmoor load to 1210 yards without dialing. If I were to improve the reticle, I would thicken the post to 1 mil, bring the horizontal post in to 5 mils from center, and bring the vertical post up to 1.3 mils below center. This would allow you to more effectively use the horizontal post for bracketing vitals at close range in low light engagements at low magnification or hold the pointed tip of the vertical post directly on your desired POI at 25 yards, and be dead on, as with the THLR reticle.


Toric Hunting Scope Mil Reticle.

Tract advertises using Schott glass, and it is superb. This scope has as good an image quality as I have ever seen, better than my LRTSi and DMR II Pro scopes, and right up there with any alphas I have looked through.

The scope was mounted on my primary hunting rifle, a Jon Beanland barreled Bighorn Origin riding in an MPA BA Ultralite chassis. The barreled action is torqued to 65 In/lbs. The action screws are treated with blue Loctite. The mounting system consisted of a Bighorn 20 MOA extended Picatinny rail and Seekins 30mm low rings. All fasteners were torqued to manufacturer's recommended specs and secured with blue Loctite.


Toric UHD Hunting Scope On Rifle

After zeroing, I removed the scope from the rifle and placed it on my Targets USA Scope Tool. This is a rock solid setup, weighing about 30 pounds, and when set on my concrete supported shooting bench, allowed no uncommanded movement during the static tracking test.


Toric UHD Hunting Scope Mounted on Targets USA Scope Tool.

The short version is the scope tracked perfectly during the static tracking test. While I had 20 mils of elevation adjustment left after zero, I tested the tracking up to ten mils of elevation and the scope tracked perfectly, hitting every dot, spaced 1 mil apart at the appropriate adjustment. There was no left or right deviation during vertical adjustment. I also adjusted two mils left and two mils right and repeated the test with perfect results. Turret clicks were positive with minimal movement between clicks. The clicks are distinct, a little more so than my beloved Bushnell LRTSi and a little less so than a friend's Athlon Cronus.


Tracking Target

With the static tracking test complete, I removed the scope from the scope tool and remounted it on my rifle to conduct the live fire tracking test on the same target at a later date. As expected, even after removing the scope and replacing on the rifle, it was within .2 mils of POA. I fired a five shot group, made the adjustment and went right to live fire tracking. On the live fire tracking test, I only went up to 8 mils of elevation due to my target berm not being tall enough to stop a bullet above that. The test was conducted by aiming at the bottom dot, making a 1 mil adjustment and shoot another group while still aiming at the bottom dot all the way up to 8 mils of elevation. You can see that all groups impacted about .1 mil high in relation to the orange dots which were 1 mil apart. In hindsight I should have fired another group to after the adjustment verify zero, but that rookie mistake was my fault, not the scope's. The scope tracked very consistently with every group impacting the same place in relation to the respective dots all the way through 8 mils of elevation. Once I completed the live fire tracking test, I climbed up on my shooting platform and engaged my 900 yard target, resulting in first round impact as expected. The scope tracks as it should.


Live Fire Tracking Results

To check zero retention, the rifle and scope rode uncased in my UTV over miles of washboard dirt roads and through rough pastures and drop test consisting of drops and knock overs that I had actually accidentally done in the past. I have had a name brand scope completely fail after riding in a padded case over that exact same road and through the exact same pastures. Before I did the drop test, my rifle was due a cleaning, so I cleaned it. I also had to load another batch of ammo to continue testing. I fired two five shot groups to foul the bore with the clean barrel and new batch of ammo. The rifle settled in during shots 6-10. It was not perfectly zeroed, but I didn't pursue it, as my goal was to determine whether the scope would maintain the same POI after being dropped. Shots 11-15 were after two drops from the leaning position. I leaned the scoped rifle against my bench and pushed it over so that it fell while pivoting on the butt pad. I did this once to the left and once to the right and then fired a group, shots 11-15. POI was the same in relation to POA, no zero shift. After shots 11-15, I put the scoped rifle on my shooting mat, resting on the bipod. I then knocked it over twice in each direction then fired shots 16-20. Again, no change in POI in relation to POA, no zero shift. The Tract Toric Hunting Scope withstood impacts I have previously experienced, withstood vibrations and jolts in the UTV that all my scopes are routinely subjected to, and retained zero. Not all scopes I have had in the past have survived that.



Upright Knock Overs

Bipod Knock Overs

In summary, the Tract Toric Hunting Scope is a very nice, high quality, rugged, functional long range hunting scope. It tracks as it should, retains zero through real world abuse, has a useful feature set and superb image quality. I like it.

John
 

Big Stick

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It might help folks,to shoot a pic of the end of the box,so things like zoom range and other particulars are easily illustrated. Or at least denote same,if not a link to it on their site. Tract's nomenclature ain't the smoothest.(grin)

I'd like to see FULL erector travel between pokes,with a zoom whirl and parallax spin. With 20 Mil's after zero,I'd wanna flail through it all,if only in the interest of Rimfire Pursuits for starters. I'd also be curious to see how it behaved with a coupla hunnert Mil's rattled through the erector,between shots,in conjunction with the above.

Seems like the reticle would be a bitter pill,compared to the LRTS/LRTSi in Gen3? Thoughts there?



Any thoughts into how forgiving parallax is,as in a feel for DOF? Is a fickle bitch or eager to please? How so,in relation to magnification?

Is the erector turret splined or Free Willy? How does the zero-stop work and any thoughts regarding same?

For like funds,would you take it over the LRTS? the reticle would steer me Bushie.

Obliged................
 

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I would love to see someone put out a scope that competes with a SWFA 3x9 for weight and have a capped windage turret

You ain't gonna hate 10 Mil's per revolution or the louder font,on top of everything locking down and the illumination.

Elevation locked.



Elevation unlocked.



Zero stop.



I fucking HATE the 3-9x in comparison..................(grin)
 

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Also,I'd be curious to see pics of the ACTUAL reticle and am hoping TRACT fucked that image up....................(grin)
 

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It might help folks,to shoot a pic of the end of the box,so things like zoom range and other particulars are easily illustrated. Or at least denote same,if not a link to it on their site. Tract's nomenclature ain't the smoothest.(grin)

I'd like to see FULL erector travel between pokes,with a zoom whirl and parallax spin. With 20 Mil's after zero,I'd wanna flail through it all,if only in the interest of Rimfire Pursuits for starters. I'd also be curious to see how it behaved with a coupla hunnert Mil's rattled through the erector,between shots,in conjunction with the above.

Seems like the reticle would be a bitter pill,compared to the LRTS/LRTSi in Gen3? Thoughts there?



Any thoughts into how forgiving parallax is,as in a feel for DOF? Is a fickle bitch or eager to please? How so,in relation to magnification?

Is the erector turret splined or Free Willy? How does the zero-stop work and any thoughts regarding same?

For like funds,would you take it over the LRTS? the reticle would steer me Bushie.

Obliged................
All good points.


I view the reticle as the weakest link, but NOBODY has made what I think would be the perfect FFP hunting reticle to cover near to far in all lighting conditions. If they would make the post bolder, maybe bring the horizontal post in a bit closer to center and bring the vertical post up to about 1.3 mils below center, it would be about perfect to me. I know you like using the reticle for holdover, and for play that’s cool, but when killing, I’d rather dial elevation, so would not miss the holdover if the reticle were as I suggested. With it as such, the tip of the vertical post would put POI dead on at 25 yards so would work great for low mag, low light in your face shots.

As far as the LRTSi reticle, the “post” are great for measuring, but I would prefer they be solid like the G2H for bracketing during close range low light engagements. In fact, were it not for the donut, I’d prefer the G2H over either of them. The LRTSi’s saving grace is the illumination, which the Toric and LRHS2 do not have.

I didn’t do a systematic max elevation to zero between shots but should have. I certainly did spin the turrets a bunch while fondling the scope at the house and never observed an unaccounted POI shift when I would take it out to the pasture afterwards.

Erector is splined and zero stop works just like those on all the Bushnell Elite Tacticals.

I’m at work and don’t have the Toric in front of me but I haven't had any concerns about depth of field once you get past about 75 yards. I wouldn’t at all be afraid of setting it about 200 yards and not touching it for most of what I do. The parallax does adjust down to 10 yards which would be very nice for rimfires.

Bushnell not making the LRTSi anymore kinda skews the results a bit, but if you put an LRTSi and a Toric 30mm Hunter in front of me at the Toric’s retail price, I’d probably grab the Toric for its increased mag range and better glass. I’d view the reticles as a wash, neither perfect, but for different reasons. If you put GAP’s LRHS2 and the Toric 30mm Hunter in front of me at the Toric‘s Retail price, I might grab the LRHS2, but that would be a very tough choice. Tract has a very generous Military/LEO/First Responder discount which would make choices even harder. No matter how I slice it, the Toric is much scope for the $, with the benefits over the LRTSi being limited to increased magnification range and image quality. Mechanically, they are two peas in a pod.

John
 

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Stick,

As a side note, you might wanna take a look at Tract’s spotter. I have one with both the zoom eyepiece and fixed 22x eyepiece with their mil reticle and it is simply amazing.

John
 

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I liked my Tract scope a lot. I hate my Nightfarce SHV F1 4-14x50. They cost the same; Tract wins.
 

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You ain't gonna hate 10 Mil's per revolution or the louder font,on top of everything locking down and the illumination.

Elevation locked.



Elevation unlocked.



Zero stop.



I fucking HATE the 3-9x in comparison..................(grin)
Tried you a couple times on the phone with no joy
Shout when you are home as I want to stop by and talk scopes and boats
 

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Everyone uses shit,for what they use it for and there's likely few things more subjective than a reticle. For Movers and shit that happens fast,I'm a HUGE fan of an ability to contend both gravity(elevation) and atmospherics(wind),or momentum(shit headed for "safety")...if not all (3) in conjunction. Compound angles and the HEAT of battle,etch things in stone. One you taste the ability to do so,everything else is blasse' by default. The LRTSi reticle,offers substantial Rimfire holdover potential and that isn't not MUCH appreciated by me.

Splined erector spindles,are GOOD news in my book. That facet in and of itself,precludes "weirdness",even before the set screw(s) are cinched. Given a choice,that would always be my choice.

I've seen scopes do OK in systematic incremental tracking,but hurl all over the side of the fucking Cab,when taxed top to bottom numerous times. For those reasons,I never don't not incorporate it,because my last correction,has ZERO bearing on the next in said regard. Come-ups will ALWAYS fall,where opportunity lies and who in the fuck "knows" where that's gonna be,on a typical outing?!? Certainly not I. So I HEAVILY weigh how huge corrections and zoom swings,along with parallax whirlin',affects a base zero repeat and tracking through ALL stops on the erector.

I'm not a G2 Reticle Guy,because I still suffer a few.(grin)

Your reticle image,VERY much improves over TRACT's shit schematic and that pic should be on their site!

If parallax were fickle you'd know and it's nice to hear that it is not. While default of said magnification range alone,being favorable to such things,not all wares play nice in said regard. 10yds is a very GOOD thing too,in my book.

I've contemplated their Spotter a few times,due the reticle option as you cite. It seems like it's never in stock and they fuck one right proper on Shipping,every time I've looked. I can get K&N Cold Air Intake and Filter shipped for free on Amazon for my new BBC 454 boat pulling truck,but TRACT wants $100++ for a Spotter. Pretty funny shit!

Hang a TRACT 22X Spotter Reticle pic,when you get a chance.

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'Horn,

I don't even know where my phone is.

Shout tomorrow afternoon,plate's full until then.

I can always have The Dude take shit to work and he's only blocks from you...............
 

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I was thinking that originally,they made Straight ones?!?

I get enough shit SOAKED,that I don't need Optics aimed towards the sky..................(grin)
 

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tnv,

I'm not a Nightfarce Guy,but in fairness,they are making strides.

Which TRACT do you have/like?.............
Stick,
My sample of one is the Toric UHD 4-20X50 FFP MRAD PRS. I've been pretty pleased with the optics. The Nightforce optics aren't bad, I just feel like I'm always crawling to get into the short eye relief. I also don't like the 5 mils/rev.
 

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IMHO NightFarce REALLY fucked up,going SHV.

They should held their "standard"(whatever it was at the time) and simply stayed that course. Now they gotta peel banannas,to see WTF and are never even fucking close.

For killing,the 2-12x Gen2 Lit Bitch is a fucking MONSTER....................(grin)
 

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Some folks wanted to see a pic of the reticle at 2.5x, so Ive included that.



After request from folks on Rokslide, I called Jon Allen and asked if he would allow me to hold on to the scope for a bit to conduct a Formidilosus style drop test. He agreed.
First part of the test was to establish a 30 round zero/group size. This is shown in the picture.

The test consist of three drops from 18” and 36” on the left side, three on the right side, and three on the top, followed by a ten shot group after each series of three drops. The idea is that with a 30 shot group size established, each successive ten shot group should fall within the 30 shot group. That is how it should work, but I kinda screwed that up all by myself.







After the thirty round group, I was out of ammo for the day but wasn't entirely satisfied with the zero, so I made the an adjustment and slipped the turrets to zero but did so without verifying the adjustment. So, a few days later on the first post- drop group (18” left side) you see a POI shift from the 30 round group. Was this from the drops, or from my unverified adjustment? I wasn't sure, so I continued the test. The next drops, 18” on the right side, revealed no change in POI or group size from the previous group, nor did the 18” drops on the elevation turret. So far, so good. The 3' drops were the same. Same POI and group size with no shift noted that couldn't be accounted for by the size of the original 30 round group.



To my eyes, the scope did what it was supposed to do for this series of test. It showed no POI change for six 10- round groups, after 9 drops at 18” and 9 drops at 36”.

The fact that the groups were not centered up on my POA bothered me though, and I had 10 rounds left. So, I swagged an adjustment, fired five to verify, made another adjustment and saved the last five rounds for 700 yards. My data showed 4.2 mils of elevation and .4 windage. Winds were gusty. I hit the first four and missed on the fifth, which I attribute to an unaccounted for gust. The scope did what it was supposed to do.



This Toric Hunting Scope seems to be a solid scope. It retains zero and tracks correctly. Image quality is very good. As discussed above, while the reticle works, it could be improved to make it more useful in low light at low magnification, as well as retain its long range capabilities. If looking for a reliable long range hunting scope, it should definitely be on your short list.

John
 

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I would even go for a higher mag version of the 1-6 HD, maybe a 3-12 or a 3-18. We have the option of running the turrets capped or un-capped there. I can’t help but think that capped turrets have got to help with impact resistance. The reticle is pretty good in the 1-6 too. About all I’d do on a higher mag version would be to get rid of the CQB ring. Or, maybe not. It is pretty handy for in-your-face shots.

John
 

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I just bought an Athlon Midas Tac 4x16. It's mounted but I haven't even shot it yet. Capped windage, tactical elevation turret, 23 oz vs SWFA 19oz. The reticle is fairly thin on lower power and there is no illumination, but stainless steel guts for a tough scope. The reticle looks like it is superior for precision but may not be ideal for hunting. It's on a 223 AI that occasionally chats with coyotes, so we'll see. Gopher trip coming up in two days and I expect it to shine there.
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I had ordered a Helos as well and it arrived. I didn't think I would like the reticle, but I do quite like it. The Helos ended up on the 223 AI instead, with the Midas repurposed to shooting knat's eyes duties. I can see what all the fuss is about now. Looks like a quality general duties scope.
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Would still like to see a straight plumbobbed vertical line and full erector dumps,with zoom changes,betwixt pokes on the TRACT.

Just walked through the door and drug another S/S 700 7mm RemMag home and I'll 2-12x Lit Bitch it,after tossing it in an Outlander and stabbing a trigger in it..................