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#142248 - 02/06/12 06:27 PM Bedding a Scope Rail....
Rman Offline
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So, I have a scope rail that keeps comming unglued under recoil. I've tried red loctite, and it was good for a while, but it came undone again this weekend.
Would bedding that fucker on there do any good?

Thanks.

R.
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#142250 - 02/06/12 06:53 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Rman]
labdad Offline
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Which torque value are you using on the screws? Have you used other mounts previously on that rifle?
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#142251 - 02/06/12 07:02 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: labdad]
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I went with 20 inch pounds on the screws, as per Badger instructions. This is the only rail that has been mounted on this rifle.

R.
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#142254 - 02/06/12 07:49 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Rman]
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Registered: 12/11/07
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Loc: Alberta
Epoxy. With no release agent on the rail or receiver.

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#142257 - 02/06/12 07:57 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Rman]
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I tighten all my rails bloody knuckle tight as a minimum and have never had one work loose...or close.

I don't use any adhesives,except mebbe rust...............(grin)

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#142265 - 02/06/12 09:48 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Big Stick]
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Loc: Just north of Paradise
I'm Gorilla tight with everything that gets snugged down. I've snapped a few screws in process, but not had stuff come loose on its own. I can live with that.

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#142277 - 02/07/12 09:53 AM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: 406 SBC]
Big Stick Offline
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Never have puked a Torx fastener,but have had more than a few shitty batches of regular Allens.

More shit goes south due to Lady Finger "tightness",than all other reasons combine.................

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#142282 - 02/07/12 12:30 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Big Stick]
Chuck Offline
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I have turned THREE torx fasteners in half 2 Talley and one Leupold. One I fixed myself, one went to Bill Leeper, and the third to Dennis Sorensen. I also recall a 24 hr thread on your fasteners working loose on a Ti 7mm-08 Talley ring caps AND I understand you have tigged fasteners to at least one receiver.

If they are working loose with loctite glue the buggers in place.

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#142283 - 02/07/12 12:40 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Chuck]
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I get it that you cling to every word,yet curiously enough,LW's ain't 1913 rails. Enjoy that MIG and TIG stump you too.

I remain certain as well,that I've more than one receiver..................

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#142284 - 02/07/12 12:48 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Big Stick]
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For a guy that dances like you do it's no wonder your down to a band of six merry men that believe anything you say and have this as a sponsor. You ever sat down at thought this through?


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#142285 - 02/07/12 12:51 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Chuck]
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I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess and prolly have more than one scope mounting system,that's been to the Fair.

As per always,I enjoy your Imagination and incredible dumbphucktitude...though in no particular order....................

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#142288 - 02/07/12 01:04 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Big Stick]
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No deer were hurt in the making of that photo....grin
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#142289 - 02/07/12 01:09 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Painless]
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No Kanucks were Outside either....................

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#142291 - 02/07/12 01:27 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Big Stick]
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Chuck has done one thing right he has inspired me to create a new group just for him, I dub the "dumbphucks" and he is the sole member (I think it appropriate). It will be a little while before we see anymore of his posts (not to long as I'd hate for some to get bored).

Talk to you soon Chuck....grin
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#142295 - 02/07/12 02:49 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Painless]
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She tries hard,but falls short...undoubtedly due to "intellect","experience" and "reality".

Imitation is THE most sincere form of flattery and it's poignant that she feels compelled to plagiarize pixels and store same on her hard drive.

Bless her heart......................

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#142297 - 02/07/12 02:56 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Painless]
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Originally Posted By: Painless
No deer were hurt in the making of that photo....grin


Damn, didn't know you were a Deer Whisperer Blake....Was it the ear tickle that got him to lay down pretty like that?............(grin)


Edited by KodiakHntr (02/07/12 02:56 PM)
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Originally Posted By: cloverphil
with a larger diameter bullet you wil create more drag and thus faster drop over longer ranges



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#142301 - 02/07/12 04:19 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: KodiakHntr]
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No it was the old mono filament around the nuts trick.....grin
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#142305 - 02/07/12 05:49 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Painless]
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Ahhh, of course. That's a right impressive lasso toss with monofilament.

Gots to be sneakery to get up behind 'em like that.....Although I guess you southern boys are likely pretty good at sneakin' up on 'em from behind huh?..........(GRIN)
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with a larger diameter bullet you wil create more drag and thus faster drop over longer ranges



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#142309 - 02/07/12 06:40 PM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: KodiakHntr]
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sneaky is my middle name......grin
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#142338 - 02/08/12 10:38 AM Re: Bedding a Scope Rail.... [Re: Painless]
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I've typically got heavy hands when talkin' Torqtitude,but do differentiate betwixt steel values and aluminum alloy values...as per what material the fastener threads are actually engaging.

Lotsa(my) ring caps will never see the TQ value a base fastener will,due to the difference in materials. Have given thought to Heli-Coiling some alloy ring caps in the interest of R&D,but haven't as of yet.

A Marty rail will take a very good lick,whether flat,inclined or lugged and I assuredly fucking yard on them. I'd use a hammer wrench,if I could get one on the fasteners.(grin)

Though all are "lugged",not all ride on a stripper clip slot and upping the ante with 8-40's is tough to motherfuck. However,it ain't like an integral rail would fucking piss me off.




By in large,the weather and salt,put the hardest lick on things...with all else being equal..................

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