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Yea and it hasn't been 6 months since the creedmoor case was nothing new and a easy pass for the xc.....grin.tnv said:Now you boys have gone and discovered CBI like everyone else. Wonder when their prices are gonna go up?
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I could easily make a Grendel AR mag work,by opening the follower's width and lowering the front plate's height. On a short throat and with a BC concession,it'd be fine(105 High Birds and Really Don't Flys will not make ASC COAL,nor will 108 ELD's).go ahead said:Lots of info to read thanks. Are you having to do any work on the mags or just load and go? Disregard that same question in other thread. Other than the little bit in the front the pic shows.
Don't feel bad. I didn't even lose a bet and I've got a 6.5-20 vortex viper on a heavy 243 budget build. yuck.Big Stick said:Lost a fucking bet.
BIG one.................(grin)
Would be curious to read your thoughts on the 3-15 vs the 16x. Same tight eye box and glare at 15x as the fixed 16x? If you see any poi deviations with changing x would like to hear about that too.Big Stick said:Lost a fucking bet.
BIG one.................(grin)
That's what I was thinking. I still haven't played with my 10X super chicken but I am curious to hear how the 3-15 fares. Seems like a good option for numb nuts like me.16Bore said:Good. Now toss that piece of shit my way.
Same here. Got one on an 8-twist medium weight 243 that is just perfect. I'm a prairie hunter so will end up running mostly fixed 10's although I can see a faux ti-ish build in my future with a fixed 6x on top.16Bore said:Dig the 10x on my Tikka.
A variable and exceeding 10X is only gonna add concession(s)...not "benefits".Nail said:That's what I was thinking. I still haven't played with my 10X super chicken but I am curious to hear how the 3-15 fares. Seems like a good option for numb nuts like me.16Bore said:Good. Now toss that piece of shit my way.
Haven't done any huge zoom change evaluations,as I didn't/don't fixate 100yd paper. I grabbed a 100yd centered zero,at a height I knew to be familiar,clocked speeds and immediately went to 700yds and then 1200yds+,to correlate the generated come ups. Swung zoom a bit,without issue and have no concerns in that regard.Hondo64d said:Is this Criterion meeting your accuracy expectations as well as your first one?
Regarding variables, is the 3-15 changing POI with changing power?
Thanks,
John
I found out many moons ago,that the more I shoot...the better I shoot everything. Hard to be good at,sumptin' you don't do much of. I do a bit of it and seen it help.(grin)16Bore said:I did that on a 6x45 prior. Personally like more nose on a rig. But I like a lotta shit that others don't.
My favorite 270(and perhaps favorite rifle),is the 18" Montucky.16Bore said:I did that on a 6x45 prior. Personally like more nose on a rig. But I like a lotta shit that others don't.
I'd be more interested in the 3 side than the 15 side. But who the fuck am I kidding, I still like M8's.Big Stick said:A variable and exceeding 10X is only gonna add concession(s)...not "benefits".Nail said:That's what I was thinking. I still haven't played with my 10X super chicken but I am curious to hear how the 3-15 fares. Seems like a good option for numb nuts like me.16Bore said:Good. Now toss that piece of shit my way.
The view of a 10x really do trump the 3-15x variable soundly. I MUCH prefer rear focus parallax. I cannot begin to speak to mechanics,but initial tracking,testing and returns of the variable's erector are spot one,but I haven't shot it much past the 1200yd line and wasn't really concerned with that initial dope...because I knew it would change with the barrel chop(s). Zero Stops are easily installed ala Fixed Fucker and using like wares. That ain't bad news. I did not install stops on the variable and that due the fact that it is impossible to get fucked up,when an erector is set up to yield zero,on it's last rotation anyhow. Zero is simply the last zero you can reach.
I bought it as a lark,knowing I'd disfavor it and as a R&D teaching Tool for others,to connect dots that are easier to hand someone,rather than try to explain.
The 10x blows it out of the fucking water...................