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I'm looking hard at boats again
Leaning toward a mid 20's doall
Fishing, cruising, overnight er
Not afraid of fiberglass either

Current leader is a Sea Sport 2400 explorer

What say ye?
 
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The only thing I'd say is make sure it has 4 Stroke power on the back. Stay away from I/Os. Seasports are really nice, but most of them have either a gas or diesel inboard. If you can find one with outboards/whale tale, you'd be in good shape. Expensive to convert them/repower.
 
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I got nothing to add - all my boat time is in a 16.5 foot walleye rig but wanted to say - I love these types of threads.

As to the 4 stroke idea - I've been impressed with the ones I've been around. Was standing on the dock next to a loaded Lund sporting a 150 Merc 4 stroke and it was so quiet you didn't know it was running. Seriously - guy pulled away and it took a second to realize he was moving under power.
 
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Looking at one that has a I/O but needs a repower
Was leaning toward a Yammi 300 on a swim step

Think I may try to talk wih the Shelter cove crew and see how they like their Sports after converting to OB's
One of theirs is the explorer model
 
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Dave would be good to talk too about that. Probably looking at 35k for that repower, and that might be on the low side. The electronic controls ain't cheap either.
 
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I was thinking by the time you did the conversion, engine, controls, etc. Fireweed and Silver Seas runs them... Chet services them so he'll be able to tell you about any issues. I'd almost want to go twin 150's. I think Shane Westfall has a 300 on a 24ft Seasport. Track him down and talk to him too.

Boats are expensive...(grin)
 
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I thought about twins also as it would eliminate electronic controls
Talked with a guy here yesterday who has a 2400 coho that he converted to OB and is running a 250 verado
He said moving the weight back after conversion to OB caused his boat to run a little bow high which he corrected by adding a little weight to the bow
Got me to thinking that twin 150's may be a little heavy
Would be looking at 1000 pounds hanging out there vs 600 for a 300
 
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I like those 24-26ft Hewescrafts. A guy could do a lot from them, they have an open bow for beaching/pulling an anchor, and they don't need a ton of power. V birth is where they'd be lacking in the models I like. There was one with twin F200's I liked a lot I saw for sale. Pulling the boat all over the island is big for me too, so weight is an issue.
 
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I looked at a 24 Hewes this week that bas a bracket and twin 150's
looks to be a nice setup and is a deep boat for the size
Gotta have a v birth for the family though
 
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The only way to get what I really want would be to have one built and set up how I want
I've looked over a good number of boats
Most all are geared toward a bigger back deck for fishing room and smaller cabins
The 2400 explorer comes closest in a factory boat
 
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Pooderbuilt does/did brackets for SeaSport and Osprey. Phone him up and ask about the conversion. Might be worthwhile to have him manage the conversion down here in Bellingham then ship the bracketed boat up there. I think he works with a local glass guy to fill the I/O hole and put a giant fishbox where the engine was, and all for not too much dough.

Power: I ran Endsley's old 26' hewes short cabin for four years with a honda 225 and it worked fine, though it could have used a bit more juice. No complaints, though, and worked GREAT in protected water at 23+ knots.

You could probably run a 24 seasport on a 250 4-stroke and do pretty well. I don't know if you have Honda service up there - the 250 has lean burn and will use substantially less fuel at cruise than about anything out there. It is light on displacement compared to the Yamaha 250 and 300.
 
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Guy I talked to with the 250 verado said he was happy with ibis choice
Going 250 yamaha would be cheaper as I think one can still get them with standard cable controls
Wouldn't have to buy new electronic controls
Kinda think I would regret not going 300 though
Did find a GREAT deal on a new 350 yamaha.......
 
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Curious how 2 of that Merc 115 Command Thrusts would do on the back of a 24 Coho.. I think they come in at 377 pounds each. They'd probably do a bit better than a single 250.. but then you have the weight issue.

Like you were saying, it's all going to electronic controls for the v6 engines now, which add big $.

If I recall, Rob pretty much fished in everything with that 26 Hewes. Fishy boat.

No love for the North River or Duckworth? Nice boats, and they have a following if you decide to sell.
 
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The wife keeps dropping hints about wanting a boat with a cabin, heater, table, etc... I know what you are talking about. Big $$ when you start looking for a family hauler that isn't going to drive you nuts.
 
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Also what are some of the things you guys consider "must have" in a boat?
Preferred heat source? [color:#009900]If you're going to spring for cabin heat, do it right, Espar Airtronic. Accept no substitute.[/color]

Cook top? [color:#009900]None, they are an absolute waste of space. Get a camp stove and/or BBQ grill for the back deck. You can stash it somewhere when you're not using it, or better yet, you can leave it at home when you don't need it for that particular trip. BTW, that cook-top/heater combo unit is doubly useless - it sucks as a stove, and it sucks as a heater.[/color]

Etc???? [color:#009900]If you get a pot puller, plan to get the 200# Safe-T Puller (or Hauler model) as a minimum. The Electrodyne is better still, but more expensive and requires a more permanent install. Stay away from the Ace Line Hauler and the rest of the $500-600 disposable units.[/color]
 
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Dan, interesting perspective on the cook top/heater combo. We did the wallas cook top/heater combo on the Kimber Dawn and I think it was the best money spent on that boat. Heats the cabin just fine from early May through November and does bacon/hot cakes every morning with a pot of coffee!
 
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John,
Something to think about now, as you dive into your next set up, is what you'll want in another 5-10 years with the family.

The Kimber Dawn does us just fine right now, but I know I'll be up towards a 35' in a few years. Two growing kids and a dog, and 28' gets pretty small after 3-4 days. The more time we spend on the water, the farther we like to explore. I think it fairly possible that you'll be outgrowing a 24' in no time at all if you really want to get out away from town much.
 
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Dan, interesting perspective on the cook top/heater combo. We did the wallas cook top/heater combo on the Kimber Dawn and I think it was the best money spent on that boat. Heats the cabin just fine from early May through November and does bacon/hot cakes every morning with a pot of coffee!
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You are the first person I've heard that from. Hewes may be screwing everyone else, but their setup sucks. Buddy has that setup in his boat, and he can't keep it running at night for some reason. When he does run it, it fucks up the counter top in his brand new boat (formica next to the cook top). It is truly a lose/lose there. He brings a mr buddy propane heater as a rule.

I wonder if Hewes isn't just running the lowest end Wallas, and way underpowering the heater?
 
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I hung a dickinson propane heater in the back corner of the hewes - it radiated like a woodstove when hot... It used no juice unless the fan was running, drew combustion air from outside, and exhausted outside. Win win win. That thing would have been a monster in an insulated cabin that was sealed off under the gunwales better than the Hewes. Worked fine while running too.

We cooked on the back deck with coleman propane stove. Lived out of totes - this was camping with two boys under the age of four.

Prop grip and single vs double: It's all about the prop. On the Yamaha 350 on my almar, the 4-blade Proptech cannot be made to ventilate when trimmed level or farther down, at any speed, with any load, in any turn, in any water. That sucker GRIPS. The Yamaha factory prop is better on fuel at cruise, but wants to start ventilating if I trim the motor to level or farther up. Don't sweat running a big single - you'll find a good prop for it.
 
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cwh said:
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Dan, interesting perspective on the cook top/heater combo. We did the wallas cook top/heater combo on the Kimber Dawn and I think it was the best money spent on that boat. Heats the cabin just fine from early May through November and does bacon/hot cakes every morning with a pot of coffee!
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You are the first person I've heard that from. Hewes may be screwing everyone else, but their setup sucks. Buddy has that setup in his boat, and he can't keep it running at night for some reason. When he does run it, it fucks up the counter top in his brand new boat (formica next to the cook top). It is truly a lose/lose there. He brings a mr buddy propane heater as a rule.

I wonder if Hewes isn't just running the lowest end Wallas, and way underpowering the heater?
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I really like the heater/stove setup in The Kimber Dawn as well
 
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Agreed
I've almost come to the conclusion that a guy needs three boats
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That about sums it up. I'd want a pretty good sized boat if I was going to do a camping trip with the family on it. 24ft will work, but I'd be wanting to toss kids overboard after a day of that unless there was a lot of beach time.
 
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Lotsa ways to skin the cat and raghorn and I were musing this very subject the other day.

Packing that much gas,has always and would always aspook me. NOONE in the Commercial Fleet is gas powered. I'd look to simplify and bulletproof and that means single diesel and V-drive. A Cummins would be tough to whoop,for logistics. Also a back deck that is truly flush,do always appeal. I'd go hydraulic on my puller and cut to the chase.

The 28' TE connects alotta them dots by default,but they are typically located on the wrong coast. A trailer would be easy to score.

(Single V-Drive 28 TE RINK)




If SeaSport made their 27' Navigator so configured,it'd steal the show............
 
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For just fishing I's think this boat would be hard to beat!
Add a true hard top and roll
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/photo_gallery.jsp?slim=broker&lang=en&ywo=blacksharkmaine&hosturl=blacksharkmaine&units=Feet&id=2870917&back=/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp&boat_id=2870917
 
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It'd be nice to field a true flush deck,the 50gal fuel capacity would concern me and stowing corpses would steal even more room(unless there's under deck fish boxes that I'm not seeing). As a Meat & Taters Bloodbath Sonofoabitch,it would likely do alotta things easily and well.

Aluminum will always make me more nervous than 'glass..................
 
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Just gotta plan around what its main use will be....sounds like a cruise camper that you could fish out of, I like fishing boat to be just that, a fishing boat, yep, you nailed it. Need three boats. Curious on what Calvin said at 24campfire about the 25-35k boat to cover the needs of area. Just talk the brothers into a new one and swoop up the Kimber Dawn........
 
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We should narrow down the search..(grin)

Under 100k
Between 100-150k
Over 150

If I had deeper pockets, a coldwater 33 would be on order. (twin 250's)
 
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I'd go Canadian and save 30% off the top with current exchange rates.. You aren't using it commercially so Canuck made is no big deal. Eaglecraft, silver streak, broadwater...
 
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If slips are easy to get down there, this is a lot of boat for the coin.

https://www.alaskaboatbrokers.com/listings_detail.php?id=234
 
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You guys think big...(grin)

Nortic Tug towing a 24ft Seasport. Hotel + Fishability You just need lots of time.. (grin)
 
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Way to big for me unless it lived in a slip, and I fish too many different spots for a boat that lives in a slip. I'd like a 28' aluminum boat with twin o/b's. Big enough for some comfort on over nights, small enough to trailer.

Sometimes you find a deal on a used six pack and if you're willing to put some time and money in slicking up the cabin you'll have a nice set up.
 
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cwh said:
Brother Bill said:
Dan, interesting perspective on the cook top/heater combo. We did the wallas cook top/heater combo on the Kimber Dawn and I think it was the best money spent on that boat. Heats the cabin just fine from early May through November and does bacon/hot cakes every morning with a pot of coffee!
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You are the first person I've heard that from. Hewes may be screwing everyone else, but their setup sucks. Buddy has that setup in his boat, and he can't keep it running at night for some reason. When he does run it, it fucks up the counter top in his brand new boat (formica next to the cook top). It is truly a lose/lose there. He brings a mr buddy propane heater as a rule.

I wonder if Hewes isn't just running the lowest end Wallas, and way underpowering the heater?
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In addition to the Hewescraft owner Chris mentioned, I've got a buddy with a decked-out Glaciercraft. He has the heater/cook top, but he runs an Espar for cabin heat and rarely uses the cook top. For cooking, he either grills or uses his oven. Hell, they even bought a propane-powered coffee pot, so he wouldn't have to use the cook top to make coffee. If I'm correctly remembering what he told me, he said the thing would overheat and shut down before it would boil water. It's been a while since I've talked to him about it, though. I'll ask him, again.

I'm glad you guys like yours, Bill. I always thought they were a good idea, but you're the first person I've heard sing any sort of praise about them.
 
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Anybody have any experience with a C-Dory or Arima......Also Raiders are on sale here in the northwest, they are a spin-off of Hewescraft..
 
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I'm with Teal, I will never own a boat like this but enjoy the discussion. Not that it helps you raghorn, but Mercury has a test shop up the river from where I work and I get to see them out testing their stuff quite a bit which is cool. I love looking out my office window and seeing a big center console with anywhere from 1 to 4 outboards tearing things up. Last time I shot the shit with one of their guys he had a 19' bass boat with a Confederate flag on it and he said his job for the day was to try and blow the gearcaase at 80mph. Due to our proximity to the merc plant it is what a majority of guys run here.
 
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My fantasy would be a 22' Seahawk with a 200 yami....could get competitive....trailer and all.........
 
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Sharkhide doesn't let aluminum do its thing. Google up a discussion of removal of mill scale for new boat fabrication on aluminumalloyboats.com - posts by kmorin. Go look at basically every aluminum boat that's been used for a few years and you will see little white dots of corrosion - these are little corrosion cells which result from manufacturers not removing the mill scale. Sharkhide is clearcoat for mill scale...

The big commercial builders (matsumoto, shore, etc.) acid wash the scale off their plates and their boats turn the color of Larry's webpage background here and stay that way until the end of time.
 
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C dories are flat bottomed so unless you have dead flat waters they'll pound our you'll have to run very slow.

I pretty much copied the c-dory 22 layout when I built my tolman skiff. It's a good functional layout to fish four people on the deck and comfortably sleeps two in the cuddy and one on the bunk in the pilothouse. When the kids were little we'd put all three of them in the cuddy and momma and I would use the bunk and a fold out. It was cramped +p, but beats a wet tent.
 
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Was thinking about brackets
Wonder how a flat bottomed bracket would do mounted as close as possible to flush with the boat bottom?
Thinking it would help planing and may decrease fuel burn on a hull with alot of V
 
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Have similar experience with Arima that Paul mentioned RE C-Dory. In moderate to heavy chop they will beat on ya. The Ol' Man & I beat pretty hard on a Sea Ranger for a couple decades until he passed and I sold it. We were going to sell it and upgrade to a 24' Grady White walk-around until he made his valiant race against cancer....
 
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Anybody have any experience with a C-Dory or Arima......Also Raiders are on sale here in the northwest, they are a spin-off of Hewescraft..
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Those Raiders look good. A 22' Raider would get it done up here in style, both the hunting and the fishing. (provided you don't want to use it as a hotel)
 
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North River runs hull extension brackets on its boats, as does Hewes for the 22' boats. My 26' hewes didn't have one, and it worked fine. Such a bracket would be tougher to graft onto a glass boat - when I had a bracket put on the Almar, a couple of sturdy straightedges, some plate and a ground-flat weld made the bottom of the bracket a hull extension. The boat runs out flatter with the extension, and keeps the bow down in chop better at slogging speed. My net weight stayed about the same (1300# +/- diesel out, 820lb outboard and 55 gal fuel in).
 
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Just splashed the pacific with the new to me 200hp honda. 3800 gave me 29mph. Much better, expecially for a 23ft boat. It maxed out at 4500. It's got a 4 bladed stainless prop that I can't find a number on. It will probably work well for hauling big loads though. I have to haul 4 guys (including me), gear, and hopefully and elk on an etolin hunt here at the end of the month.
 
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Have spent the better part of the day talking with folks about the convwrsion and brackets
Got some good info and some prices from local dealer
Talked both single 300 and dual 150's
Th 300 would require two sets of electronic controls if I want to keep the outsid steering station
The 150's would pretty much rule out the second station

Guess I could use the outside station for the kicker
 
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It's propped too big. I need a 17 pitch 3 blade to hit that 6k rpms it looks like.

Good luck on your choice. Is the boat a local boat?
 
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Have spent the better part of the day talking with folks about the convwrsion and brackets
Got some good info and some prices from local dealer
Talked both single 300 and dual 150's
Th 300 would require two sets of electronic controls if I want to keep the outsid steering station
The 150's would pretty much rule out the second station

Guess I could use the outside station for the kicker
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If you're going to the expense and trouble of twins, size them large enough so that one of them will get you on step. Otherwise you'll have a very expensive kicker to bring you back in if one of them shits the bed. It's also worthwhile to make the fuel system as close to independent as possible.

Wonder how much kidneys go for?

https://www.alaskaboatbrokers.com/listings_detail.php?id=275
 
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The 26 hewes with 225 Honda used a 15p prop.
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Ended up going with a 15dx15p 3 blade aluminum prop. I max out at 5800. 4000 gives me 26mph, with about 115 gallons of fuel in the tank. Taking off all the troll gear, cleaning the bottom, etc I'm sure helped. I'm a little stern heavy, so I think a beefy set of trim tabs are in my future.
 
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You know what you are doing for a bracket yet? I remember seeing an armstrong on Craigslist for not much $ a long time ago. Might want to throw up a WTB ad and see if you can steal something. It might come together much cheaper than you thought before..
 
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I talked with Chet and am pretty sure I'm gonna have one built
I'm thinking a 48" bracket matching the hull contour with a 36" setback and a full width swim step is what I want/need ...........
 
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Nice. I see it up on a stand at the shop.

I'm changing my mind by the minute on what I want to stick on the back of my rig!
 
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Probably should have asked if anybody needed any non-skid. Ordered up a gallon from Farwest Paints for $45, and the shipping came to $70.. grin. I hear it's good stuff.
 
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I'm touching up my pacific. I got the exact stuff the factory uses, in the same color. If I have any left over, I'll let you know.
 
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No, from Farwest paints. They supply Pacific with what they use. Just call up and ask for the same non-skid Julie from Pacific orders. It's about $45 for the gallon, and $70ish on AML. But, you can get up to 250# of hazmat for that $70, so find a few guys to split it with.

http://www.farwestpaint.com/
 
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He just dropped the price from 18k. I spoke to him. The engines are 2004. The first year the 150 Four Stroke came out. I'd probably value each engine at about 5k each. If they were 2010s, it might be worth it, IMO.
 
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Well, a deal has been struck for the Seasport and the owner should be here in a couple weeks to close the sale
Talked with the local shop and they said they could pull the engine and drive in 4 to 6 hours
Then on to the welder for building and fitting the bracket
Then to the fiberglass man to close the transom
Then back to the shop to have my 350 installed
Gonna be a process ........
 
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I just ordered my trailer today. From Ohio of all places. We've got 3 of them coming together to save shipping.

Be curious what you decide on the heating. That's been on my mind. Mine goes to the welder after Kirks stretch job gets done.. You bumping me? (grin)
 
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Well, a deal has been struck for the Seasport and the owner should be here in a couple weeks to close the sale
Talked with the local shop and they said they could pull the engine and drive in 4 to 6 hours
Then on to the welder for building and fitting the bracket
Then to the fiberglass man to close the transom
Then back to the shop to have my 350 installed
Gonna be a process ........
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You sure you don't want to pull the engine in my driveway? I'm sure we could figure it out in a few days...(grin)
 
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My boat has dash vents for the windows already so I'm hoping it will be pretty easy to just plumb in a heater to the existing system ??
We shall see
I'll probably talk with the guys at shelter cove to see how they went with theirs too.
The welder says he hopes to have yours and mine in the shop at the same time .....grin
He was hoping for maybe 2 1/2 weeks from now depending on how long the stretch takes
 
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Roger.

I jumped into the wiring of mine this last weekend. Not too bad. 95% of it will be gone, but the main stuff is lined out nicely and is in great shape. It'll be easy to get it wired up once I decide on electronics. (Been antagonizing over that one) I am going to have Rocky build me a new dash. I want to flush mount a chart plotter, sounder, and radio, so I need lots of room. Going to try to make everything as simple as possible. I just might have mine going by this summer. Not like I'll have time to use it though.
 
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22' is a pretty small boat. They put a nice cabin on it though. Zero interest in an IO though.

Where are you sourcing a D4?
 
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Ya was thinking might be a good repower project but length and side height are a concern.......
 
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Nothing wrong with a 22. That boat would be ideal for a 250/300. To have the bracket done right, you are looking at around 3-4k unless you have a buddy you'd trust to do it. Grab a good 30" off The Hull Truth and you could have a killer little fishing boat for not too much. Almars are bullet proof.
 
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You'll want a hull extension type bracket for a boat like that. Nice thing about those older vintage almars is they are built like a tank. You can blast or sand it down, buff it, and have basically a new looking boat. Get it built for a 30" shaft for offshore use. I'm starting with a bare boat, so my costs will be much higher. Although I get a new trailer, kicker, fuel tank/system and electronics.

There is 3 of us going with coho designs to wrap our boats now too. http://www.cohodesign.net/boat-graphics/

I'd go with camo if I didn't think it'd hurt the resale value.
 
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Now that I think about it, somebody did a convert on a similar sized almar over on aluminum alloy boat forum. Posted pics of the process. Put a 300 Yami on it.
 
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It'll be a great king year, no doubt. Troll will be shut down in a week or two. Good numbers will build locally. Not sure how many they'll let up catch though come July 1st. The guys who are doing well, as usual, are earning them.
 
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Nothing ever comes easy,especially in the Winter...but prolly because I don't pay a whole 'lotta attention to it,the numbers really susprised me. I know guys in Summer,who don't deliver as many,as they are in the Winter.(grin)

Price just might be a touch better too,as I'd heard $9.75 or thereabouts if I recall correctly. No Pickles,but if you've lotsa Peanuts,the money is there.

Good to see 'em grind and make it pay.

I'm just hoping creeks swelled,but it's been way more wind volume than rain volume,in my AO.............
 
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Might have a deal going on twin 200s. Going to go with the camo wrap too. Now I need to see how big of a fuel tank rocky will put in it.
 
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Haven't talked with him since just before he finished the other almar like yours he was working on
I'll probably touch base with him Monday or so to see how it's looking
 
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With how things are shaping up, it's going to be an epic year for fish. Hope you have a good smoker, a pressure canner, and a big freezer. You'll be looking for ways to store fish.
 
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No
It's hooked up to the main
He used it to pick up pots mostly
The kicker is on a hydraulic lift that is sweet
I'm gonna leave it mounted as is and continue using the tiller
 
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I enjoyed talking with the guy I bought it from.
He's good people and has killed alot of fish on that boat including some big fish
Was interesting on how he targeted big fish
His largest is 70 pounds
That him inside the front of the most recent visitors guide
Kool dude to talk with .
I plan on keeping the mojo going!......
 
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The funny thing is that it'll "kick off" here in about a month. No time at all. There can be some nicer sized kings around in April/May. I'm getting stoked. This summer is going to be amazing. We'll have to talk gear here soon. I've got some herring heads that are working really well.

You gonna keep it wet, or keep it on the trailer?
 
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raghornjp said:
The poles I'm talking about are for tuna etc I think
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I'm having the Almar put together with long range in mind. Art is getting ready to sign the papers on the Glory though, so I might shelve putting engines on till next year. I'll have zero time to fish this summer/fall, so no use eating a year of warranty for 5 hours of use.

Actually, I'm still trying to figure out when I'm going to have time to ever use the thing...(grin)
 
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Plans are to keep it in the water during the summer so I don't have to launch every time
Probably pull it once a month or so and clean the hull and stuff off
Then keep it in the yard the rest of the year
 
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Good call to hang on to those...I've got bigger plans for this year after talking with some of the NOAA/F&G bios. Its going to be an interesting fall on that front.
 
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I don't think that's a possibility, with how it is laid out. One big tank is how they roll in those boats. When waterfall converted they only put in 100 gallon tanks, but wished they'd gone a bit bigger. If I had more room, two tanks would be nice. (and I'm sure a lot more money)
 
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That's a pretty decent deal for somebody if it's legit. All one has to do though is change the gauge on those older hondas to manipulate hours though.
 
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Supposed to be a blizzard here,for the next few days.

Warm & windy has been a trend this Winter..............
 
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Be interesting to see what happens with bears and bucks. Was really hoping for a big snow pack to keep things greenish through Sept up top.
 
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They best stay green till late August. I have a date with some alpine up there. Not that I care if the deer are up top. I'll go anyway just to do it.
 
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I heard a purty good low water Chromer Report yesterday too.

Trying to be a straight up Blizzard here...gonna be a fun day............(grin)
 
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I expect to see a few on the next pass...especially if I can set the feesh rod down long enough to look.............
 
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I'm stuck here at work for a bit still. Have to catch you on the next one. It will be time for bears!
 
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Nice

Let's get all the boats together and camp out at least once, a'la Spring Fling.

Probably come home with a few skins.
 
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Great! Did you get any pics? It seems things are coming along nicely. Hope the kid is hanging in there.
 
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No prob, he keeps me pretty well updated.

I really don't like the new hayrack design but I was overruled by the designer.

I think it will fish though.
 
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She's a doll and easily one of my favorite people.

You've enough connections,to make something happen.

It's better than ever...............
 
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Yes, a camo stripe. Need to polish it, but it's looking less waterfallish. Heading to the welder soon, engines will be on order next week. Twin 150s and a 9.9 High Thrust. Trailer is on it's way from Ohio of all places. Putting in a decent electronics package too. Garmin 740xs with the good charts, Furuno 1870 for sounder, and a few radios. Not sure I'll rig it for trolling. Probably look to rent/lease it out for the summer.